I agree this is irrelevant. There is a huge chance the Bill and Hillary will not be married much longer. Some say that this is a business arrangement but so what. They are great friends and obviously love each other period - even if they break up eventually. Just my two cents.

We Need Team Hillary!!

Once a troll always a troll. If diarist attempts to post anything else here, we now know what what we're dealing with!

Diarist should start a club with Larry Sinclair!

Disgusting! F**king disgusting. This post has no business being on this blog!

You know, I'm man enough to admit that there is some salacious gossip that would cause me to rethink my support for one candidate over another. And to have Gina Gershon's career revived in some way, be it ethical or not, I say, Clinton 08!

Seriously though, I feel less dirty clicking this than I did the latest "Michelle Obama Is Teh Devil Boinker" morning diary only because I totally dig Gina Gershon and always will. And that's why that Vanity Fair article makes me miss the Clintons I knew and loved. Because it's THOSE kind of stories that make right wingers CRINGE and CRY and make left wingers go "Well, isn't that nice. Gina Gershon getting work again."

If only it was her pacing around the RBC meeting and Ickies homeless begging change around Boulder CO then I'd be a happy man.

But I digress.

Clinton 06! Obama 08! Time Machine O'Now!

A Republican supporter.

You see men and women on the road without having sex with them?  Well that completely flies in the face of this well-thought out and articulate diary!  Amazing ;)

just finally seeing what is behind most of the hatred of Hillary. Some people just cannot get away from the 90's gossip and innuendo. And then they think they are in 'new' politics when all they are doing is rehasinhing old stuff.

No reason to even through in the "Obama supporter".  Let's just say, as democrats (or even as people) this is stupid.

Yup.  Dump it!

I am sure the righties had a million of these "Clinton innuendo" stories queued up to start hitting around august....

Yuck.

Disgraceful indeed!!!

Please tell me that isn't a site.

and Republicans.

In fairness -

I don't think the plural "You guys" is appropriate.

It seems to me that everyone commenting - Clinton and Obama supporters - have universally called for the diary to go and as of right now - there's not a single rec on the diary.

Oh that's right!  Cause this is coming from one of those reasonable Obama supporters who posts diaries all the time like RageKage or StudentGuy, hm?

Goddammit, Catfish, no one knows who this poster is, and s/he certainly is no friend to any regular Obama supporter on this site.  S/he is clearly a troll.

Don't paint us with the same brush.  It makes you look petty.

We all are.  This is a pretty cut-and-dry case of trolling.  Please see through it Clinton supporters.

well, Dee Dee has been supportive of Hillary, but that doesn't mean her husband is.

look at Jessie Jackson - he is an Obama supporter, but he states his wife is for Hillary.

Ditto, from another Obama supporter.

shalca, thank you for that quote.

I can see it now on the MSM:

omg - Bill HAD dinner with Tony and Kevin.....

and Chelsea could have been there....

ah, the lack of family values.

Perhaps this isn't the right place for the discussion - given that this diary has been universally denounced - but I think you're being unfair.

There WERE times when Bill Clinton crossed the line - let's remember, the Clinton campaign itself reconfigured Bill's role in this campaign after he went off reservation at times.

I voted for Bill Clinton twice (four times if you count primaries).   I joined MoveOn in the 90s and spent plenty of time defending Clinton.

But Bill Clinton was not perfect - and I'm not talking about his personal foibles - there were plenty of policy issues I had with him in the 90s.  There were plenty of institutional problems I had with the Clintons in 90s (the DLC being a big one).

The fact of the matter is that Bill Clintons two terms did not and do not give him license to take any and every shot he wanted at Obama.   What's more - when a campaign premises itself on a restoration of Bill Clinton's administration, I think it's perfectly legitimate to then also point out some of those negative aspects that many of us -- even back in the 90s - disagreed with.

I think that either here or at DK - the disavowal and attacks on the Clintons using GOP talking points (talking here about some of the more scurrilous, Scaife-based attacks) were rejected by a super-majority of Obama supporters.  You can go back to January, February, et al -- and search the hidden comments at DK -- and you'll see plenty of hidden comments that used Scaife-fueled talking points, many of them hidden by Obama backers (I know because I was among those handing out donuts).

No doubt, there were (and are) plenty of Obama supporters that crossed unacceptable lines, but they were certainly a minority -- just as the Clinton supporters that showed an appalling lack of class and decorum were and are a minority.

A Republican troll reprints an article from Vanity Fair.  That's all this is.  Some asshole trying to make Democrats mad at each other.  

Remember, when people are competing intesely with each other, it's very easy to step in and stoke the worst emotions at key points to further divide them.  Don't take the bait.  The issues Hillary represents have nothing to do with the people who turn this into nothing but a celebrity showdown.  

Senator Clinton, working with a majority in Congress and a Democratic president is going to do a hell of a lot more good for the country than any set up we've seen in a long time.  That really is something worth fighting for.  

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what to think of your comment. I'm not looking to start a fight, but I see an inconsistency. You complain that Obama supporters either attacked Clinton using right-wing talking points, or at least did nothing to stop others who did. That's a valid complaint.

However, after a quick glance through your comment history, I notice that you don't hesitate to push the "Obama goes to a scary church" line, which is definitely the sort of thing I expect from Republicans. You even wrote a diary in February that strongly hinted at a Rezko/Muslim smear, under the guise of concern trolling.

Now, if Sen. Clinton had won the nomination, would I be at all justified in holding these things against you? Would I be justified in holding the countless Obama smears I've seen against Clinton? No. That's stupid.

Your vote is the most important tool you have. Don't let a bunch of morons on the internet or in the media affect how you use it. Vote based on issues, vote based on policy, and vote your conscience. If, at the end of the day, you still decide to vote for John McCain (or, at least, don't vote for Sen. Obama), then that's your choice. But the argument you put forward above is pretty pointless.

By the way, I'm a life-long Democrat, too, and I find the "Lord of the Flies" line and the zombie line a little offensive. But I'm willing to look beyond that, because I know we're on the same side, fighting for progressive ideals... right?

sorry, but this article is shitte.  Your flames didn't help.