MyDD :: "This is nowhere near over" , Hillary today.

"This is nowhere near over" , Hillary today.

by itsadryheat, Tue May 20, 2008 at 03:47:51 AM EST

Just in case anybody was wondering, our girl is a fighter and she is not quitting on us.

"Senator Obama's plan to declare himself the Democratic nominee in Iowa is a slap in the face to the millions of voters in the remaining primary states and to Senator Clinton's 17 million supporters," Clinton's communications director Howard Wolfson wrote in a memo to reporters today, titled "Mission Accomplished: Not so Fast."

Asked about Obama's Iowa rally in a satellite television interview with a Eugene, Ore., station, Clinton herself said "you can declare yourself anything but if you if don't have the votes it doesn't matter."

After those interviews, she told a crowd at Maysville, Ky., "This is nowhere near over."

"There is no way this is going to end anytime soon because we are going to keep fighting for the nomination."

We have our marching orders. Let's make the msm cover this election properly. Nobody wins a delegate count till the vote is taken and counted and final in Denver.

Tags: Hillary, quit, no way, coronation, presumptuout, Obama, empty declaration (all tags)

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Re: "This is nowhere near over" , (none / 0)

Sorry, we can't afford to wait until Denver. McCain has ads running in Ohio every day all day long and they are going completely unchallanged.

by neonplaque on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:14:58 AM EST

Sorry, BO has to finish the primary (2.00 / 1)

as much as he likes to get people to drop out so he can appear "above the fray."

by catfish1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:23:59 AM EST
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Re: Sorry, BO has to finish the primary (none / 0)

Um, he's going to let the primary runs its course (just like McCain is currently), but as of tomorrow, he's in General Election mode.

You really think the Clintons are going to finagle a way to flip pledged delegates at the convention? You really don't think the remaining supers aren't going to circle the wagons around Obama?

Whatever. Clinton can do whatever her and Bill want but we've a bigger target to be concerned with.

by neonplaque on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:36:52 AM EST
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Asking her to drop out is sexist (2.00 / 1)

and seen as sexist by many many women. It is symbolic of the workplace and sets a terrible example for younger women everywhere.

by catfish1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:36:18 AM EST
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Make up a category; declare yourself winner. (none / 0)

Pretend the race is over. Get rid of all the competition before the vote. That's the new democratic way.

Obama got rid of all four of his competing candidates in his first race by charging them with fraud and challenging their elligibility .... all before a single vote was cast or counted. (so says Chicago Tribune,"Obama knows his was around a ballot")

by itsadryheat on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:21:52 PM EST
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fortunately, the rest of the (none / 0)

democratic party isn't buying tickets on Hillary's kamikaze flight to the convention. This rubbish ends in June.

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:17:03 AM EST

That kind of talk sure promotes unity (none / 0)

You're a Republican troll are you? Thanks for stopping by.

by catfish1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:37:04 AM EST
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We stand behind Hillary (2.00 / 1)

she makes it easy to do. What a committed and passionate woman.

by catfish1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:24:43 AM EST

Re: "This is nowhere near over" , (none / 0)

She will be quitting though and not too far into the future. In the meantime she's spent too much time allowing her supporters to keep their hopes up falsely with all this talk about "far from over". That is just not right.

by Becky G on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:21:16 AM EST

Dream on, she doesn't quit. Quitters don't win. (2.00 / 1)

Why is that such a problem for so many people? Americans are supposed to be tenacious and follow through with goals.

by catfish1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:37:59 AM EST
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Ten hut! (none / 0)

She also said that she would support and fight for the democratic nominee (which may be a hint that it might not be her)

Will you march to that order when the time comes?

Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

by Massadonious on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:26:16 AM EST

Re: "This is nowhere near over" (none / 0)

Rumours are circling about a concession speech tonight followed by a unity appearance in Florida tomorrow. Halperin dropped a heavy hint.

by interestedbystander on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:43:18 AM EST

Re: "This is nowhere near over" (none / 0)

Fits with the information that staffers on Hillary's campaign finish and go home today.

by interestedbystander on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:44:04 AM EST
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Re: I'm selling my kids' bikes (2.00 / 0)

and sending the money to Hillary. I figure that hole in her bank account is what is motivating her to stay in.

by xdem on Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:07:43 AM EST
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Staffers I met in Oregon (none / 0)

were ready to pack up and move to the remaining states. The field director is going straight to Puerto Rico.

by catfish1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:39:00 AM EST
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Not over until it's over (none / 0)

No one is going to vote for Hillary or send money if they think the contest is over so she has to make it seem like the race is still on. She knows better as does her staff but it's either sell the voters a crock or get out. So until she publicly concedes the 'this is not over' charade has to continue.

by hankg on Tue May 20, 2008 at 06:19:52 AM EST

Re: Not over until it's over (none / 0)

How do you know a campaign is just about over? The candidate starts talking about how thy're going to go forward! It happens every time. Thompson, Giuliani, Romney, Edwards, Richardson, Huckabee--they all proclaimed how they were going forward and were in it for the long haul within days of dropping out.

We're nearing the finish line. I personally think Clinton stays in until after the last primary, but she'll concede within days afterwards.

John McCain vows to overturn Roe

by soccerandpolitics on Tue May 20, 2008 at 09:27:36 AM EST
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so? (none / 0)

My daughter saw John Edwards the night before he dropped out. She was surprised as everybody else.

Edwards gave no clue what he was going to do. He was spirited and passionate, vowing to fight on.

That's what candidates usually do just before they drop out.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:46:35 AM EST

Good thing she's not him! (none / 0)

Only three more states after this.

by catfish1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:41:53 AM EST
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"our girl" (none / 0)

Why do you want to call a 50 year old woman a "girl"? What does that imply to you?

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:47:30 AM EST

Re: "our girl" (none / 0)

Isn't she in her sixties?

by interestedbystander on Tue May 20, 2008 at 08:15:05 AM EST
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Re: "our girl" (none / 0)

Oops, that's what I meant. Senator Clinton is 60.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Tue May 20, 2008 at 08:31:57 AM EST
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it will not be over until August (2.00 / 1)

unless Hillary will change her mind (I hope she will stay and even win in Denver), there is no reason for her to stop.
On June 3rd it will be last primary, no need to spend much more money and Obama will not have 2210 delegates until supers will cast their vote in August.
Supers will have 3 months to change their mind (if they have it).

Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties

by engels on Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:58:49 AM EST

It's pretty near over (none / 0)

Obama is 110 delegates short of 2025. He'll pick up about 50 tonight, he has 20 more add ons that will go to him, and will easily get 40 delegates out of PR/MT/SD. That's without getting even one more SD.

Even with FL/MI, with the SDs that are already pledged, the delegates Obama will win from the state and the probable deals on the table, he'd need like 6-7 more SDs to pledge to him out of nearly 200.

Beat McCain!

by thezzyzx on Tue May 20, 2008 at 08:10:39 AM EST

2025 is not half the seated delegates nor votes (2.00 / 1)

2025 is a made up number that does not represent a majority of anything. The majority number is set byt the rules to be half, plu one of the number of delegates who are eventually credentialed and seated for the vote at convention. Not all of the delegates have been credentialed so Obama may use the maximum number that could be credentialed, if he would like to guess at a majority magic number. That would be 2210. He isn't even starting with a viable number for his claim.

The two big problems wth tonight are that he cannot claim a delegate who has not voted, no matter what promises or prizes or sxchanges of mailing lists or cash donations have already taken place.

The second problem is a killer. There can be no nominee before the convention if there is more than one candidate.

With Senator Kennedy as advisor, I am confident that Obama has heard that Kennedy would not concede to Carter even when Kennedy's own count showed him 976 delegates behind. He took it to the floor and Carter could not delcare victory before hand without people thinking he was an idiot.

by itsadryheat on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:41:10 PM EST
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Re: HRC (none / 0)

Can someone explain the "our girl" thing?

by Pat Flatley on Tue May 20, 2008 at 08:29:03 AM EST

Re: HRC (none / 0)

she said "i'm your gal" at the afl-cio forum, and she's been affectionally been called "my girl" etc since...

"This is the time for resolve and steady leadership" -- Barack Obama

by bored now on Tue May 20, 2008 at 09:16:12 AM EST
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Yes it is (none / 0)

Yes it is

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107407/Obama- Surge-Fairly-BroadBased.aspx