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Re: Is Obama Readying to Concede? (2.00 / 12)

Hillary will be a great President.


by LindaSFNM on Sat May 17, 2008 at 08:58:35 PM EST

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I feel bad for you that your preferred candidate did not (or will not) come out on top, but just saying something over and over again does not mean it will come to be.

You really need to begin to get over it. It's politics - if your sensitivites can't handle losing then you should stay out of it.

And I really do mean that in the nicest way possible, despite how it may sound to your ears.


by Deano963 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:05:02 PM EST
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No, you're not at all condescending ~ and not even a tiny bit smug ~ Really!


by Mags on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:45:52 PM EST
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Take it however you like. I honestly couldn't care less. This diary is a prime example of the kind of kicking-and-screaming way in which Hillary and her supporters seem hell-bent on going out on.

Is it really too much to ask for someone to lose with grace and class?

Hillary going on conference calls with her bloggers urging them to declare Barack Obama and "illegitimate" candidate does not strike me as someone all that connected to reality or who has any intention of losing with class.


by Deano963 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:56:03 PM EST
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just saying something over and over again does not mean it will come to be.

I've heard you also need to tap your heels together three times.  And there was something about slippers...
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by neeborMolgula on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:10:35 PM EST
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7?


by interestedbystander on Sun May 18, 2008 at 02:37:24 AM EST
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Indeed.


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by neeborMolgula on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:38:48 AM EST
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I am terribly sorry, but this is not her time.

You have to earn your time.  You have to win it.

She didn't.  This is a part of life.  You'll accept it, eventually.

The question is if you'll have the inner strength to survive the death of your worldview.  You've built up Senator Clinton into something she isn't - the solution of all of your problems.

These are politicians.  They are, as a group, not particularly great people.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:12:43 PM EST
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Virtual Mojo! (2.00 / 1)

These are politicians.  They are, as a group, not particularly great people.

FOAR this!


by kraant on Sat May 17, 2008 at 09:25:48 PM EST
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"You have to earn your time."  Compared to johnny-come-lately Obama, she has earned it.


by Montague on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:00:57 PM EST
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I think if she had voted against the war, she would have cruised to the nomination.


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by politicsmatters on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:03:43 PM EST
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No, she would not have.


by Montague on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:09:35 PM EST
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Well, if she'd voted against teh war, she'd be a different person. Bold, decisive, principled, far-sighted, a leader, a figher. She'd be the person she and so many people here seem to honestly believe she is.

But the Senator who voted for the war, and stood by passively while Bush was destroying this country, is not that person, however much fire and grit she may be showing now, when her own ambition is more obviously on the line. Timid, poll-driven, a cautious Broderist and Liebercrat.

So, yes, if Hillary Clinton were the person she presents herself as in this campaign, she would have cruised to the nomination. As it is, as her record is, a lot of us find her claims to be a "fighter" not just nonsensical but downright offensive.


by BlueinColorado on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:33:56 PM EST
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If Obama were the person he represents himself to be, he'd have a Nobel Prize under his belt.  Had he been in the Senate, he would have voted for AUMF.  How do I know?  Because every single Democrat in the Senate who had presidential aspirations felt that to vote otherwise would destroy their chances.  (And most of those in the House, too.  Kucinich is a world unto himself, and has never had the tiniest chance of becoming president, so he can do whatever he likes.)  Obama is not different from other politicians; he is very much of their kind.

Clinton is far from perfect and far from having been my first choice.  But she is radically more liberal than Lieberman and you know that you are misspeaking.  As for fighting, yes, she has fought for economic justice.  There are more issues on the table than just the Iraq war.


by Montague on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:08:17 PM EST
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I would not say that she would have cruised to the nomination--Obama is a heck of an adversary in his own right-- but I suspect she would have won and she would have had my vote.


by DreamsOfABlueNation on Sat May 17, 2008 at 11:58:11 PM EST
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If she'd voted against the war, and chosen a different campaign staff, and did the organizing to establish a ground game in every Super Tuesday state she could have won.


"No matter what happens, I will work for the nominee of the Democratic Party because we must win in November." -Hillary Clinton
by fugazi on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:13:00 PM EST
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I don't think so.  People like nice speeches and people who talk about vague concepts like hope (cf. Bill Clinton).   Hillary is a policy wonk, not a gifted orator with a ready smile.


by Montague on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:10:57 PM EST
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Answer me this:

How long has Hillary been in elected office?

How long has Barack been in elective office?

Now, take the answer to those questions and tell me again why it is that Hillary has earned it?


by Deano963 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:57:45 PM EST
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First, please explain to me the difference - as you see it - between "elected" office and "elective" office?  

Next, experience is MORE than just being an elected public official.

Hillary has more.  LOTS more.  End of story.


by Montague on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:12:21 PM EST
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Your right... 8 years from now she will be.


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by yitbos96bb on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:21:23 PM EST
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